I AM A BEGINNER AND/OR OUT OF SHAPE - IS F5 FOR ME?
One significant aspect of skill-based training, as we offer, is that you can begin by focusing on the techniques taught; doing the movements in Muay Thai lightly and exercises choosing light weights until you are more proficient at the skills. This is what we recommend to all students who begin training with us, regardless of fitness level, as it is the best and safest way to learn and progress.
All our students and coaches have been beginners at one time. Our core value #9 is, “Always remember you were once a beginner.” We have a zero tolerance for bullies in classes, and you’ll find that our students are very supportive and friendly.
The classes are small-group; the average size is 6-10 so that we can scale exercises and workouts to the individual.
F5 is a welcoming atmosphere, with a diverse mix of students who have a desire to learn and the dedication train consistently in a fun environment.
All students start at F5 with a private intro to Muay Thai and Strength before attending other classes. Your intro lessons will be scheduled in your Kickstarter Meeting so you can get started asap.
WHAT IS MUAY THAI? IS IT LIKE KICKBOXING?
Muay Thai is the national sport of Thailand. It was developed originally as close contact battle techniques but is now a popular spectator sport in many countries. Muay Thai is also called the art of eight limbs because it uses punches, kicks, elbows, and knees to strike. It is similar to kickboxing but has different origins and the additional use of elbow and knee strikes to ht head and clinch. It is also a great workout! We call our 101 class “kickboxing” as it will not involve any of the higher level Muay Thai techniques such as clinch or elbows, however, it is still an introductory Muay Thai class and perfect for drop-ins of all levels.
DO YOU OFFER DROP-INS?
We are currently offering drop-ins for two classes on the schedule: Kickboxing and HIIT & Lift 101. These classes are offered most weekends at specific times. Please check the schedule. 101 Classes are appropriate for ALL levels and an excellent way to check out F5 services.
Why don’t we offer drop-ins for all classes? F5 teaches disciplines that are skill-based and require consistent training and commitment. Muay Thai and Strength training are amazing workouts, but there are many skills new students need to be familiar with before jumping into a mixed level class or advanced class, even if you had some prior training in both or a similar discipline.
For this reason, every new member of our gym gets a private intro lesson in each discipline before starting the mixed level group classes, so they are adequately prepared. Simply jumping into a class without participating in our on-ramp sessions may be dangerous to you and your fellow students. Furthermore, as a gym that is dedicated to providing quality coaching to every member in our small group classes, if we allowed “drop-ins” to all our classes our coaches would constantly be overwhelmed with trying to teach a large number of new students “on the fly”, while our current, dedicated members were neglected. We see this as unfair and a problem in the fitness industry in general. So that you get the proper training to get you the results you want and so that you continue to receive the coaching you deserve in our small group classes, we require that all new students to F5 commit to a consistent program of training with our team.
If you’re not sure that’s right for you yet, that’s okay – our annual memberships come with a 30 day trial period, so you can be sure it’s the right fit! If you want to train with our team, we want to know you are serious about your program and not just randomly dropping in fitness classes to get sweaty (nothing wrong with that in general, it’s just not what we do).
For those that are currently training Muay Thai or with Kettlebells/Barbells at another gym and wish to train with us while they visit Los Angeles, we ask that you also choose the 101 all levels drop-in classes in the schedule unless you train at a gym with StrongFirst programming for strength and Muay Thai (not MMA or kickboxing) from a gym we are familiar with. We ask in those instances that you provide a personal referral from your coach. If your coach knows of our training methods and wishes to provide that referral, please contact us.
WHY DON'T YOU OFFER A FIRST CLASS FREE?
Instead of a free first class, we offer a kickstart meeting so we can give you our undivided attention and answer all your questions. Remember that our all annual memberships include a 30-day trial period according to state law, so if you want to try out our programs, you have time to decide if it’s a fit.
DO YOU HAVE A SHOWER?
WHERE DO I PARK ?
From 5:30 pm to 9 pm weekdays discounted valet is available at the curbside of 8th and La Brea, NW and SW corners. Look for “Leon Valet” signs. Before 7 pm you’ll find the valet on 8th street.
Please bring ticket in for a validation stamp. You pay only $3. For a map with tips, see our parking guide.
DO YOU OFFER PERSONAL TRAINING
Yes, we offer personal strength and fitness training programs written by our most experienced coaches with your goals and individual needs in mind, as well as private Muay Thai training for those that prefer a non-group class setting and even more individual attention.
We call it strength training because strength is the foundation of any quality “fitness” program and our focus is on getting you strong, and confident in the gym and life.
For more information, please see details in the personal training section.
Please note, a kickstart meeting is the first step to setting up a personal training program with our team.
HOW MANY DAYS DO YOU RECOMMEND TRAINING TO GET RESULTS?
We recommend starting with three days per week unless you have been already training regularly with weights and intense exercise. You can ramp up your training volume gradually, over the course of your first four-seven weeks, if your aim is to train more than three days a week.
If you have only 2-3 days a week to train we recommend choosing one primary discipline (Muay Thai or Strength), or you can focus on one for seven weeks, then alternate every seven weeks with the other (our strength programs run on a 7-week cycle). For students primarily training Muay Thai who want to do strength training on occasion, but not more than 1 class a week, we recommend the “Fighter Fit” class or Kettlebell Drills and Skills as a complement to their training.
If you have 4-6 days per week to train you can choose a combination of both Muay Thai and Strength training.
We love the combination of alternating days of Muay Thai and Strength classes!
WHAT CAN I EXPECT DURING MY KICKSTART MEETING?
We will discuss what you are looking for in your training, any specific goals you have, your medical/training history, and your previous fitness experience. We want to get to know you better so we can help you get the best results possible.
We perform a functional movement screen (just five mins of simple movements, nothing strenuous at all but wear comfy clothes is you can). We’ll give you a tour and review the best class and program options for you. If you feel it’s a fit, we’ll schedule your first intro lesson asap!
WHAT SHOULD I WEAR/BRING FOR MY FIRST INTRO LESSON OR FIRST CLASS?
You will need gloves to train Muay Thai. We provide glove rental for ($3). If you have a pair of Muay Thai or boxing gloves, please bring them. MMA gloves (fingerless) and not permitted in classes. You may also purchase gloves from us.
You’ll need hand wraps ($10 plus tax) or $2 for rentals. We will help you learn how to wrap them or go to our Youtube channel and search “How to wrap your hands.”
Please come EARLY to class for help with your hand wraps. We may not be able to assist you with your wraps if you are late to class or show up right when the class is starting.
Strength Classes —> Wear flat shoes like Converse or barefoot-style shoes like Vibrams, or you can go barefoot too, running shoes are not appropriate for kettlebell/barbell training as they will affect correct technique. Proper athletic wear is required: short/pants and shirt/tank.
DO YOU SELL GLOVES AND OTHER GEAR?
WHAT IF THE CLASS I WANT TO ATTEND IS FULL?
Especially on the weekends, people often cancel so please make sure to check your email. Almost all waitlisted people DO get into the class of their choice. Make sure your Mindbody email and phone number are correct on your account.
If you live close, you are also welcome to walk-in and “standby” the class to take someone’s spot if they no-show.
HOW ARE YOUR STRENGTH PROGRAMS DIFFERENT THAN CROSSFIT?
Our barbell and kettlebell conditioning portions of the classes are not timed and follow a more interval-based system with work to rest ratios. For strength training, we follow a system that is rooted in linear periodization, which is different than most CrossFit programming.
Additionally, our style of kettlebells is Russian style (v.s. American style).
DO I HAVE TO WANT TO FIGHT TO TRAIN MUAY THAI?
Some students eventually decide to learn to spar but never fight, and that’s okay too.
DO I HAVE TO SPAR (PERSON ON PERSON CONTACT) IN MUAY THAI?
However, you will strike pads and bags and learn basic defense without sparring in class. Please note that our classes are pad work classes with partners, so there is some person to person contact, just with a pad in between, which makes is safer and more controlled than sparring.
For a more in-depth look at our stance on this, you can read coach Roxy’s Blog: Muay Thai Sparring.